Mahmoud Salem
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I swear to god the political scene in Egypt has descended into folly.. 

One of the new constitutional ammendments that Mubarak is pushing is one that prohibits the creation of any party with a religious foundation, in an effort to block the Muslim Brotherhood from ever becoming a party. One of the MB leaders in the Parliament, however, introduced a bombshell on the floor, when he stated his surprise for the support the NDP is giving to this ammendment, since their party is based on religious foundation.  

The NDP MP's of course objected: "That is not true. That is not possible.What you are saying is Bullshit!"

And then the MB dude started to handout to the members pages of the NDP manifesto and program, which clearly states that the Party has an islamic foundation. The NDP MP's were reportedly shocked and speechless, since none of them had ever read their party's program before (and according to some statistics, about 30% of them can't read and write). Even the head of the Parliament, Fathy Sourour, who has been an NDP member since its inception, demanded a copy since he had never heard of this before. Amal Othamn, one of the Party's leaders, has commented, and I quote " We have a problem here".

The MB leader then proceeded to inform the NDP majority that in case they do support the constiutional ammendment regardless, they would have to change their party's program and manifesto and declare themselves totally secular, or else their party faces the risk of being unconsitiutional and would have to be disbanded according to the new laws. A way out of this, he said, would be to scrap the constitutional ammendment all together and let the MB have their party. The problem with that scenario is, they would be defying the president, who could disband the parliamnet and send them all packing the next day. So it's either vote for something that could disband the party, or not vote for it and get disbanded anyway. Fucked either way. Funny, no?

The moment the NDP figures itself an Out from that one, I will let you know. For now I will just enjoy watching them squirm! 🙂

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49 thoughts on “Our political circus

  1. Hee hee, that is pretty funny. And to think some of us Americans get ticked with our politicians because they don’t seem to know their party’s platform – heck, these guys don’t even know their party’s *history*!

    “He who does not learn history is doomed to have it come back and bite him in the butt.”

  2. It is not about whether the party knows it’s history or not, it is actually more significant than that. It is simply that the president does not even understand his own party’s foundation. He will be the one looking like an idiot, not the guy/gal that does not how to read and/or write, at least they have an excuse.

  3. Whatever happens….get the vile and filthy Ikhwan OUT OF GOVERNMENT – at WHATEVER cost!!!

    Ihwan = Ku Klux Klan

    Of course, this will never ever happen but Egypt needs to figure out how to eliminate religion out of government. But since the average Egyptian can’t take a shit without wondering if Allah finds it persmissible….I’m not really sure how to go about it.

    Abolishing the Ikhwan would be a decent start.

  4. Hey real quick Sandmonkey, I have a question.

    I’m sure you get visitors to this blog that support the Muslim Brotherhood so I would like to ask them a simple question.

    Where does the Ikhwan stand in regards to the detention of Kareem Amer? Do they support his basic human right of Free Speech or should he be condemed to prison for expressing how HE feels on his blog?

    It’s a simple test, really. And I bet you I have the answer to what the ikhweenie’s think…

  5. My guess that the NDP issued this manifesto to out maneuver the Ikhwan in the elections, to prove that they are “holier than thou”. Obviously, they can’t have things both ways.

    I look forward to seeing how this turns out.

  6. Looks like Barack Obama was born Muslim. This gonna get him in trouble with both Christians and Muslims I think, seeing as how he converted to Christianity somewhere along the line, which is a death sentence in most Muslim countries. Big, big trouble for him.

  7. Thats just sweet!! how in the world could that happen??! but then again…welcome to the Mid East, the region of all possibilities!! thanks Sam 🙂

  8. You can go further than that and point to Egypt’s constitution which clearly states that Egypt is an Islamic country… etc…
    I was wondering when these fools would catch on to their own folly

  9. BrooklynJon,

    Obama ‘was educated in madrassa’

    Saw it on television today. Don’t know why it took people so long to figure it out. His middle name “Hussein” is a Muslim name. Baraka is an Arabic word meaning ‘blessed’ – not an African name. His Father and his Grandfather both were devout Muslims. The child of a Muslim man is ALWAYS born Muslim, according to Sharia law.

    The problem (with Christians) is not going to be that he was Muslim and converted to Christianity. That would probably actually have been a plus. The problem is going to be that he hid the fact that he was raised Muslim. It doesn’t appear in either his official bio, or his various unofficial bios, and he didn’t mention it in his book.

  10. Another one:

    Hillary vs. Obama: Gloves Are Off

    especially when Obama himself has said in his own book that he attended a predominantly Muslim school as a youngster in Indonesia — translation: madrassa.

    Everyone who thinks a boy who was born Muslim could have converted to Christianity in Indonesia, while attending a Madrassa, and gotten away with it, raise your hand!

  11. Craig, from what I have heard his mom was an atheist and his step-dad was a muslim. I don’t know how he ended up christian.(something to do with his african father?) The Clinton machine will probably pull up some good dirt about his Chicago background, recent things not the cocaine.

  12. MikeK,

    Craig, from what I have heard his mom was an atheist and his step-dad was a muslim

    It doesn’t matter what his Mom was, or his step-father, either. His father was a Muslim. That means he was born a Muslim.

    Barack Obama

    Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (born in Alego, a village in Nyanza Province, Kenya,) and Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).

    His mother married a Muslim man in Hawaii, and had a Muslim son (Barack Obama). They divorced when Barack Obama was 2 years old. His mother then married ANOTHER Muslim man, in Hawaii, and then they moved to Indonesia, a Muslim country. I don’t want to challenge his mother’s religion, but she married two devoutly Muslim men, in Hawaii – where Muslims are in fairly short supply. Would a Muslim man marry an atheist? That’s prohibited, isn’t it? Would not one but TWO devoutly Muslim men marry an atheist? I have my doubts.

    Anyway…the fact that he (Barack Obama) went to school in a Madrassa in a Muslim country like Indonesia is pretty good evidence that he was not only born Muslim, but raised Muslim.

    How is it such a major part of his past just got over-looked?

    I’m not buying it. If he said “I grew up Muslim but when I was a young man I had doubts and blah blah blah… I became a Christian” – I would be fine with that. In fact, that would be a “good news” story to me. We Christians always like to hear about people who see the light and convert. But the fact that he has just brushed his whole Muslim upbringing under the carpet as if it never was, brings up some serious questions about his integrity.

  13. From the wiki link I posted earlier:

    Speaking before an elderly Jewish audience during his 2004 campaign for U.S. Senate, Obama likened the linguistic roots of his East African first name Barack to the Hebrew word baruch, meaning blessed.[134]

    And they bought that!?

    Barakah (Arabic: بركة) is an Arabic term meaning spiritual wisdom and blessing transmitted from God (Arabic: Allah)

    His middle name, Hussein:

    After Al-Hussein was born, Gabriel descended to the Prophet (s.a.w.) and revealed to him to give the new baby the name Al-Hussain. Al-Hussain is the Arabic version of the old Hebrew name Shabir, which was Haroun’s second son’s name. When Gabriel descended to the Prophet, scores of angels accompanied him to congratulate and console the Prophet for Hussain’s birth and expected martyrdom.

    No way to make Hussein anything but a 100% Islamic name.

  14. The original story that has raised all the red flags today:

    Hillary’s team has questions about Obama’s Muslim background

    I don’t know much about Barack Obama, but I’ve been doing a lot of Googling of him tonight, and I’m not much liking what I find. People have been complaining he only poses as a devout Christian for years. The only issue that he has taken a “Christian” stand on is his opposition to gay marriage, yet he markets himself as unashamedly Christian. From his own biography, it appears he wasn’t baptized a Christian until about 15 years ago, which is (co-incidentally) when he started getting into politics. What’s the deal, here? It’s impossible to tell, as he has told a lot of different stories to a lot of different people.

  15. U.S.A. is exclusive for Christian presidents,the Clinton wife that approved the adultery and uses her husband to become a president is showing her true colors by investigating Obama. Sure, failing to inspect her husband sexual life makes her very competent in politics. Craig the “christian” is refusing to believe anyone who adopts Christianity for the past 20 something years.

  16. Hey Sam, thanks for the input!

    Here is me, interviewing Barak Obama for a job:

    Me: So, it says here in your resume that you went to both Catholic School and to Islamic School while you were Indonesia… which did you prefer?

    BO: I didn’t have a preference for either one! To me, it’s all about getting into contact with the higher power and there are many paths to don that! During the 4 years I was at the Islamic School-

    Me: Wait! 4 years? It says here on your resume you went to Catholic School 2 years and Islamic School 2 years….

    BO: Well actually I went to the Islamic school for 4 years and then I went to Catholic School-

    Me: Hold up! Resume has the Catholic School first… hmmm… well… anyway, so you were in Islamic School in Indonesia from age 6 to 10?

    BO: Yes

    Me: But you moved to Hawaii when you were 10, didn’t you? The Catholic School was in Hawaii? Your resume says you went to public School in Hawaii…?

    BO: Actually, my mother home schooled me in Indonesia at the same time I was in the Islamic School.

    Me: Your mother gave you Catholic home schooling?

    BO: Yes, that’s right. She was teaching me English and about God.

    Me: Why would a “secular humanist atheist” like your mother be teaching you about God? Wasn’t she an atheist?

    BO: Not an atheist, no… she just wasn’t a Christian. She thought it was very important to learn about the higher power, though…

    Me: Not an atheist. I see. And not a Christian. So… and your Dad was a non-practicing Muslim? And your step father also, a non-practicing Muslim? Hmmm…. and yet, they sent you to an Islamic School… Well, anyway… thanks for coming in, Mister Obama. We’ll get back to you.

    Sam, I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t hire somebody who had such glaring discrepancies in their resume. You never know what to believe about somebody when they tell you multiple different stories about the same thing. If you catch one major problem, how many did you miss? I saw at least a dozen contradictory claims Obama has made, publicly, about his background in the last 10 years.

    I don’t really blame the guy. I don’t tell people anything I don’t want them to know. There are things about me my own mother doesn’t know. There’s nothing wrong with that. But he’s making claims in public appearances and in his official biography that don’t seem to hold up under scrutiny. I think the religion issue is pretty big since he is running as a observant Christian. And also, because if we elect Obama in 2008 we are electing a guy who Muslims will view as an apostate. In the middle of the War on Terror. That’s a Capital offense, in Islam. Then there is the whole question of whether or not he actually *is* a Christian, at all.

  17. Wow, what a disgusting attempt by Hilary Clinton’s camp to foment religious prejudice in the United States. I’m sure she’ll find a rich vein to mine, but it certainly won’t enrich the US or the world at large.

    As a follower of Christ, I can think of nothing more un-Christian than to use fear and loathing to manipulate people and gain power.

    I am already sickened by the so-called “Christian” right so avidly supporting the unjust Iraqi war. I don’t relish seeing them now turn on Obama based on such a shaky smear tatic. I hope that this move by Hilary backfires and exposes how cynical and desperate she is.

    Obama is obviously incredibly impressive – resourceful, compassionate, intelligent, articulate, multicultural. The US should be proud of him, regardless of his personal faith.

  18. Craig..

    You would question a job candidate on his elementary school experience in an interview – weird that. I haven’t even been questioned on my university degree for years.. they tend to focus on my relevant experience that would benefit the company.

    So how in the world is Obama’s religious upbringing germane to his capacity to serve as presdient? And do you really believe that the fact that he has exercised his freedom of choice and become a Christian should bar him from a chance at the presidency?

    And yet I believe you call yourself a Libertarian?

  19. Craig..

    You would question a job candidate on his elementary school experience in an interview – weird that. I haven’t even been questioned on my university degree for years.. they tend to focus on my relevant experience that would benefit the company.

    So how in the world is Obama’s religious upbringing germane to his capacity to serve as presdient? And do you really believe that the fact that he has exercised his freedom of choice and become a Christian should bar him from a chance at the presidency?

    And yet I believe you call yourself a Libertarian?

  20. Andrea,

    Obama is obviously incredibly impressive – resourceful, compassionate, intelligent, articulate, multicultural.

    You forgot “dishonest”.

    The US should be proud of him, regardless of his personal faith.

    That’s the problem, isn’t it? Does he have a personal faith? He claims that he does. If that’s true, what is it? Nobody knows. Because he hasn’t been honest.

    You would question a job candidate on his elementary school experience in an interview – weird that.

    No, what’s weird is that you didn’t get the idea that the man’s published biography and his public statements on television, press releases and public speeches amounts to his “job interview” for the position of President of the United States.

    Presidential Candidates have to be perfect. John Kerry got killed by mischaracterizing his Vietnam Service. Dan Rather got fired for lying about GW Bush’s National Guard service. GW Bush himself almost lost the 2000 election when a couple days prior to election day, the Gore Campaign released arrest records for Bush getting a DUI that he had never mentioned.

    I think this is much more serious than any of those issues.

    I haven’t even been questioned on my university degree for years.. they tend to focus on my relevant experience that would benefit the company.

    And what if it turned out you were lying about your experience? What if you slipped up and mentioned you had actually been doing work in an unrelated field at one company, when you had implied it was related on your resume? What then? Would they hire you anyway, after you got caught being dishonest with them once?

    So how in the world is Obama’s religious upbringing germane to his capacity to serve as presdient?

    Short answer: It’s not. It’s the lack of integrity that is the problem.

    Long Answer: Of course his religious upbringing (and the fact he has lied about it) is relevant, because he is using his Christian faith as a campaign tool. Do a Google search on him. I’m not aware of any past Presidential candidate who has talked about his faith as much as Barak Obama. Go ahead, give it a shot. I think you’ll be surprised how much he has been marketing himself as a Christian.

    And do you really believe that the fact that he has exercised his freedom of choice and become a Christian should bar him from a chance at the presidency?

    No, I don’t. And I didn’t say that I did. In fact, I said at least twice that I would be MORE inclined to vote for him, not LESS, if he was openly a former Muslim who had converted to Christianity, Andrea. Yep, I’m pretty sure I did say that… go ahead, scroll up and take a look 🙂

    In any case, a person’s religion doesn’t bar them from anything in this country.

    The only choice I get to make is whether to vote for him or not. I won’t be.

    And I’m not ranting about this for partisan reasons, Andrea. I won’t be voting for Hillary, either. I’m ranting about it because it really does bother me. A lot.

    And yet I believe you call yourself a Libertarian?

    You bet. What do you call yourself, Andrea? I’m guessing, not a Libertarian, since you seem to think I have said something here which is inconsistent with that political philosophy, which I have not.

  21. Andrea, by the way:

    Wow, what a disgusting attempt by Hilary Clinton’s camp to foment religious prejudice in the United States.

    I have to point out, that’s one of the silliest comments I’ve ever seen on a blog. A Muslim convert to Christianity is an Evangelical’s wet dream. Obama would have been a champion of the “religious right” and would have gotten a lot of the votes of those people you hate so much, if he’d been up front about his background. Hillary is not trying to foment “religious prejudice” – she is calling Obama a liar.

    And here is some religious prejudice right here:

    I am already sickened by the so-called “Christian” right so avidly supporting the unjust Iraqi war

    So, now you will know what it looks like, in the future, Miss Hypocrite 😛

  22. It’s funny that the NDP has an explicit religious reference in their party platform, but not so surprising given that article 2 of the constitution explicitly enshrines the sharia as the main source of legislation – the ruling party has always tried to get away with a token recognition of Islam as the religion of state and it always comes back to bite it.

  23. Craig Says:”I have to point out, that’s one of the silliest comments I’ve ever seen on a blog. A Muslim convert to Christianity is an Evangelical’s wet dream. Obama would have been a champion of the “religious right” and would have gotten a lot of the votes of those people you hate so much, if he’d been up front about his background. Hillary is not trying to foment “religious prejudice” – she is calling Obama a liar.”

    Actually I hate to say it but she is. Since when does a predominantly Muslim school equal a madrassa? When Hillary wants to smear an opponent I guess. Does anyone know what school he went to? Does anyone know if it wasn’t just a normal Indonesian school which would, by the course of events, contain mostly Muslim students? It looks to me that Hillary took something Obama was open about – going to a Muslim-majority school – and equated that with a madrassa in order to smear him (and if she was thinking of the Jewish vote I wouldn’t be surprised as they don’t give a damn if he is a born again or not). She is trying to raise religious prejudice againsr Obama. Let’s find out what school he went to – when he was six for crying out loud! – before crucifying the guy.

    Not that I like either. I think Hillary is a witch and given the people that like Obama, I’d rather vote for Hillary.

  24. Remember Martin Luther King, Jr? We just had that national holiday Monday. He had a lot of useful ideas. It doesn’t matter the color of the skin or the labels you apply. The content of their character is what matters.

    There are good Christians and bad Christians. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. Sandmonkey=good, BP=good, Zarquawi=bad, bin-laden=bad, ITMbrothers=good, alaamesopotamiam=good, …

  25. Evangelicals would be thrilled with a Muslim convert to Christianity – IF he espoused their particular brand of Christianity. If he does not — if he turns out to be much more liberal than they want — then they will question his faith and likely be susceptible to the fear tactics being spread by the likes of Clinton. It seems to me that Obama actually thinks and doesn’t blindly follow tradition.

    And Craig – don’t accuse me of hating the Christian right. I just hate the way they seem to define Christianity these days, when in reality Christianity is not a political movement. I’m a Christian, but it doesn’t follow that I share a lot of beliefs of the Christian right.

  26. NDP is in trouble and I would like you Sandmonkey to give us updates on how this will fold although I’m sure Mubarak and Co. can change the constitution again and again …..

    Andrea, I agree with you 100% the guy is not applying for a priest Job and he never lied about his background.

    O Jeff, good point but I’m afraid the racism and hate he faced that ended his life still exist in crazy people heart in 2007. Thanks to Bush who implemented fear, racism, hate towards Islam and Muslims.

  27. O.Jeff Says::”It doesn’t matter the color of the skin or the labels you apply. The content of their character is what matters.”

    No one is judging the color of his skin but his honesty and that does relate to his character.

    O.Jeff Says::”There are good Christians and bad Christians. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. Sandmonkey=good, BP=good, Zarquawi=bad, bin-laden=bad, ITMbrothers=good, alaamesopotamiam=good, …”

    Well there are good practising Christians and bad ones. Good non-practising Christians and bad ones. Good practising Muslims and bad ones. Good non-practising Muslims and bad ones. The problem is that the problems with Christians, practising or not, are irrelevant. If they want to make each other miserable I don’t care. The real problem is that the problems with the Muslims, practising or not, are highly relevant. Non-pious Muslims gave us airline hijacking and bombs. Pious Muslims have taken suicide bombing to an art form and way of life. Sandmonkey is, I am sure, a good person and I have no idea if he is pious or not. But a disproportionately large percentage of his fellow Muslims are a problem.

    Twosret Says:”Thanks to Bush who implemented fear, racism, hate towards Islam and Muslims.”

    Actually I think you will find Bush has spoken out against fear, racism and hate directed towards Muslims. The people who initiated and created that fear and hate (not racism of course) were Muslims. Muslims like Osama who flew a plane into the WTC and Muslims like those that provide a platform for the radicals and murderers while claiming to be opposed to terrorism.

  28. I wish someone would explain how Obama lied? If any of us were to write our own autobiographies, I’m sure we would choose details of our lives that illustrate who we are… we wouldn’t be able to put every single detail in. Obama hasn’t denied the Muslim influence on his life, and he hasn’t lied. I hope that for once this cynical political ploy backfires on Clinton. But that would mean I expect a degree of wisdom from the general American population that isn’t there — after all, you elected a real, proven liar twice… and the world is paying the price for that.

  29. Heigou, what do you think the word “Madrassa” means?

    Andrea,

    And Craig – don’t accuse me of hating the Christian right.

    I am already sickened by the so-called “Christian” right so avidly supporting the unjust Iraqi war.

    This sentence implies that A) you don’t believe they are actually Christians and B) You are disgusted by them

    That’s the way I read it anyway. And I also read it as religious bigotry. What would you call it, when you attack somebody because of their religious beliefs? That’s fine – I do it a lot myself. I just thought it was a bit ironic that you were complaining about religious prejudice, in the same post you were making prejudicial statements about other people’s religious beliefs.

    Your comment about Evangelicals is a silly stereotype.

    Obama hasn’t denied the Muslim influence on his life, and he hasn’t lied.

    I see. So, when a person gives multiple different and contradictory accounts of an event, it’s possible that they can all be true? Hey, Andrea, I’m all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but come on…

    Twosret,

    Andrea, I agree with you 100% the guy is not applying for a priest Job and he never lied about his background.

    So, the habitual liar is vouching for somebody else’s honesty!

    Thanks to Bush who implemented fear, racism, hate towards Islam and Muslims.

    And the infamous bigot is complaining about racism!

    Good stuff, Twosret 😛

  30. *Sigh*… Those of you who are throwing around the Arabic word “madrasa” in the comments clearly have no idea what the word actually means: it means school. Any kind of school for children.

  31. Fathy Sourour musta slept through that boring partt.

    “Thanks to Bush who implemented fear, racism, hate towards Islam and Muslims.”

    Oh Twosret, hun, Bush may be many things, but lets not go all overboard in your biased mind. Muslim bashing has been around a LOT longer than Bush Sr, even, has been alive. OH, and you always seem to overlook how connected Mr GWB is to Saudi oil money.

  32. “and the world is paying the price for that”

    Andrea, could you please explain to me how, exactly, I’m ‘paying’? Other than it at times dominating the news? In other words, don’t overblow the actual effects in hyperbolic crap. Another modern political tactic as counterproductive as all the mud-slinging that you seem to detest.

  33. Yeah, Twosret, suck up to everyone who supports your own bigotry. Better than logging in under different user names to support your own idiotic opinions, isn’t it?

  34. Jason,

    Are you the same Jason from Toronto? just wondering because if you are you always told me not to take you serious remember? 🙂

    “but lets not go all overboard in your biased mind. ”

    If you or others only learn not to attack the person who is posting but his ideas things will sound much better. Anyway, let me ask you Jason….

    When was the last time people were thrown out of Planes because they look Middle Eastern?

    When was the last time the court had to order an airline to pay $400,000 compensation for a passenger from Yugoslavia born and raised in the US who was thrown out of an airplane 5 years after Sept. 11 because he sat beside two Israelis who looked Middle Eastern and the three of them were arrested for no reason whatsoever other than there skin color and hair color?

    When was the last time the President of America broke the law and spied on records, mail, phone calls, credit cards with no court order?.

    When was the last time thousands of people were detained without access to a lawyer and was jailed for 5 years without a trial?

    If you really think that this happened before Bush on regular basis than you are out of contact with reality or you are not informed. If you really believe that GWB has no interest with the Saudis than I don’t know what to tell you.

  35. Two,

    To be fair, when was the last time there was a large scale attack on American soil? Correct me if I’m wrong, but that would have to be the Civil War, and the “Civil Rights” abuses under Lincoln pale in comparison. For instance, the entire Maryland Legislature was arrested and imprisoned without trial out of fear that they might vote to seceed from the Union.

    It’s hard to feel very good about the people who get wrongly accused and are harmed in the process, but you must admit, these are unusual times, and it is an unusual enemy that is fighting us. One that is willing to use techniques that our ordinary legal process – and for that matter our ordinary military processes – are not really designed to handle. This has caused every president since Carter (when this all started, pretty much) to respond ineffectually or not at all, which has likely emboldened those interested in doing harm to the USA, and by extension, to you, me, and our respective families.

  36. Um let me reword as “It’s hard to feel very good about people getting wrongly accused…” I have no animus against those people who are wrongly accused, of course.

  37. BJ,

    Let make my point clear. Do you think it was easy for me to travel after Sept. 11.? Heck NO! I was as scared as every American. This tragedy have caused us all fear, I recall doing my will before stepping on an airplane (I really did).

    I don’t look like an average M.E. and I was searched in airports and never complained about anything. I was always cheerful and patient and can understand completely the situation. I laughed with security people about feet, toes, shoes,and my children baby food that was sniffed by a hungry FBI dog and couldn’t resist and crushed the bottle and licked my baby’s formula.

    My objection to the situation now that we are 6 years after Sept. 11. It is not the fault of any Middle Eastern traveling that the CIA or the FBI didn’t do their job back then. For God’s sake they suck me dry every year for taxes and can’t even protect this country or let me travel in peace. They were so arrogant and full of it to even ignore every legitimate threats. I recall a friend of mine Joking with me in Frt. Lauderdale airport saying “next time I can come and pick him up from the airplane seat” since anyone can walk into the gates.

    Not only did they not do their job back then, they are still not doing their job now. Do you recall the stupid codes of Red, Orange created by the smartest big turkey in homeland security back then? you basically wake up in the morning and they tell you the color today is orange level of terrorism is high, no details of course given. Is this is a professional way of handling the most powerful country in the world????????

    Unusual times doesn’t mean that you humiliate any American citizen who have done nothing to break the laws or security measures. Unusual times doesn’t mean that any passenger who is blue eyes and blond hair can throw out a dark hair man sitting next to him because he felt uncomfortable. American Airline Crew who are suppose to be professionally trained shouldn’t be racists and throw a Portuguese man and two Israelis out of the plane who are citizens of American simply because they look Arabs.

    Arab-Americans have always lived in peace and were good example in the US and also in Canada, I have seen many example of great people from the Middle East that makes me proud.

    I think American presidents have played with fire in their foreign policies when they supported once someone like Bin Laden.

    BTW the story I was referring to in my previous post was in regards of a Portuguese and two Israelis on American Airline. You can read it yourself

    http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=177181

    So watch out when you travel you might be next 😉 depends of course how you look like 🙂

  38. No I said don’t always take me too serious :p or meant that anyways.

    “When was the last time people were thrown out of Planes because they look Middle Eastern?”

    Well when was the last time .. and hell lets compare all the times, ppl who didn’t look middle eastern a)hijacked a plane b) blew up a plane and most importantly c) flew planes into skyscrapers on purpose? Hmm? Better they lose a seat than locking all up in internment camps no?

    “When was the last time thousands of people were detained without access to a lawyer and was jailed for 5 years without a trial?”

    Again, internment camps. This time, unlike with the Japanese, not all are locked away.

    I didn’t say GWB has no interest with the Saudis. I said he was implicitly ‘conspiratively’ involved. Therefore nullifying your crap that Bush hates all Arabs or Muslims. You get the drift.

    BJ: “To be fair, when was the last time there was a large scale attack on American soil? Correct me if I’m wrong, but that would have to be the Civil War”

    What? Hawaii doesn’t qualify? Pearl Harbour maybe!

    Back to Twos: “My objection to the situation now that we are 6 years after Sept. 11. It is not the fault of any Middle Eastern traveling that the CIA or the FBI didn’t do their job back then. For God’s sake they suck me dry every year for taxes and can’t even protect this country or let me travel in peace.”

    Hell, Israel, which is far better prepared for random ‘terror’ attacks can’t do it. Why the hell would you think any other country would be?

    I remember crossing the US border (pre 9/11) traveling with a Russian/Romanian Jewish girl and her Iraqi friend… and it was me, not them, they ‘questioned’, probably thought travelling in such company, ‘I’ was up to no good.

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